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Ron Steenwijk

Peter.......Game.......set and MATCH!!!!

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(07/03/09 10:37:02)

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Gee wizz.......it took me some time but I finally have some proof
Peter that you did get your privileges suspended on the steel guitar forum.It was even closer to home
then I imagined.

In this reply I will also include e-mail exchange made by the moderator in question.
The moderators e-mail address has been removed by me to respect the privacy of this person.
You thought Peter that I could not find it did ya?
Well my fellow Dutchmen......take a look at this.

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum7/HTML/004002.html

I suggest my little "peduwan" that you look at the last reply by Joey.
And then let me know if I was lying.....................little twerp.

You will also see that b0b removed a tread off of the forum because of all this.

I told you Peter that you would get a big "BUTT WHOOPIN"..........well here it is.

The e-mail conference between the moderator in question and me.
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Question‏

From:	Ron Steenwijk (bigsbysteel@hotmail.com)
Sent:	Fri 8/11/06 4:42 PM
To:	joey.ace(email address removed)

 
 
Hi there Joey,
 
Maybe you can help me here.I don't want to sound like a little kid but I 
think I have to ask you this.Do you think that I was wrong with my reply on 
my deleted topic?
Well maybe I was a little hard on it but I get blamed for Hijacking my own 
topic.How can i do that.I didn't hijack it.Some people see it that way.
 
Now I get hate mails from Peter Den Hartogh....something I do not need.Mails 
with answers like......I mailed b0b about this and that.
Mails that he composed himself probably.
 
You know...the music that he put up on his web-site is from a very good 
friend(Henk Braaksma) of mine in Holland.I mailed that man and asked him if 
he knew what Basil put up on his website.
He said that he did not know that and that he would mail basil about it.
 
This is that e-mail....I have it because Henk mailed it to me himself.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Henk Braaksma" <hr.braaksma@hccnet.nl>
To: "ESGHOF ESGHOF" <basil@european-steel-guitar-hall-of-fame.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Re; Your guitar, Tuning and steel bar
 
 
>So Basil,
>     What kind of colleague/friend are you?
>     You plased my CD on the internet for illegal downloading without any
>permission/deliberation with me en then you asked me for complete
>information.
>     Now, I know what I can do with all your recordings.
>Henk from Holland
>
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Joey....I don't want any trouble on the forum.I am trying to get my business 
started and contribute in our community.
I send you a copy of this mail just in case b0b asks you about the whole 
dilemma.I don't want to bug b0b with this because the man has enough on his 
head right now.
 
let me know what you think I should do.
 
Thanks my friend
 
Ron Steenwijk

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Re: Question‏

From:	Joey Ace
Sent:	Fri 8/11/06 4:52 PM
To:	Ron Steenwijk (bigsbysteel@hotmail.com)

Hi Ron,
I haven't read the posts that caused the problems, so I can't comment on the specifics.
Peter has caused trouble and acted very immature before. If he's giving you trouble,
learn how to configure your email to automatically delete incoming mail from him.
I had to do that to several similar folks.
This isn't the first time Peter quit, and made a big deal over it.

My advice to you is let it alone. The community can see who is making trouble,
and remembers that. No one remembers if you were right or wrong.

There's a good chance the SGF will close, as b0b has had his fill issues like this.
That's too bad, but I've told him I support the decision to shut it down.
It's been a good run.

Best regards,
Joey

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Re: Question‏

From:	Joey Ace (joey.ace)
Sent:	Sat 8/12/06 2:47 PM
To:	Ron Steenwijk (bigsbysteel@hotmail.com)

Hi Ron,

Don't miss
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum7/HTML/004002.html

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I suspended Peter's posting priveledges because of his last remark.

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The fool keeps posting about how he's quitting, then keeps coming back to fling feces!

I sent b0b a note explaing why.

Thanks for taking the high road on this matter.

Joey

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Re: Question‏

From:	Ron Steenwijk (bigsbysteel@hotmail.com)
Sent:	Sat 8/12/06 4:52 PM
To:	joey.ace

 
Joey,I will do anything in my powers to keep the forum alive.If that means 
that I have to swallow some insults from people then I will do so.
However....I took the high road on this one because I know how Dutch people 
work.They will never give up when they have something in their mind that 
they think they should settle once and for all.
This is one of the reasons why I am moving to Pennsylvania next week.It's 
not because of the majority of the dutch people but the musicians.Every 
single one of them thinks they are super and no one can top them.There is no 
future for me here when it comes to music.Sure...........I have a future in 
labor but that's not only what I want.I want to help people in becoming damn 
good musicians.If I can only help one............that would make me really 
happy.
 
I am sorry for all the things that I said on the forum and I will let b0b 
know about that to.And as far as Peter is concerned....you don't have to 
suspend his privileges.He contributed in our community with lots of good 
advice.
He always was and still is a good asset to this forum.So is Basil....but it 
hit me really hard that people attack someone that wants the best for our 
community.
 
 
But I sure do like your way of dealing with forumites.You Sir....are one of 
the best.
 
Thank you my friend,
 
Ron Steenwijk

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Re: Question‏

From:	Joey Ace (joey.ace)
Sent:	Sat 8/12/06 5:14 PM
To:	Ron Steenwijk (bigsbysteel@hotmail.com)

Hi Ron,
Thanks for the kind words. If Peter wasn't ragging on you it would be someone else.
The "never admit to being wrong" attitude isn't exclusive to the Dutch.
Texans come to mind. They're all God's children.

FWIW, b0b and I both grew up in Pennsylvania.
He was near Pittsburg, I was in Bethlehem.

Joey

Now Peter......what is your answer to all this?You must feel like you were struck by lightning.....huh?
Might I suggest that you crawl back under that rock out there in the desert.....before I put more incriminating facts
on this forum
for the whole world to see?

Greetings to you Peter.Ow before I forget....... http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/ take a look at this
web-site.It belongs to your good friend.
Talk about piracy huh....?

Peter you told me once in a couple of mails that you would destroy me.You spread rumors and lies amongst
forum members for years which resulted in me being banned from the forum.
I hope that Bobby and the whole world can see that you........and just you alone are the filthy little
rat that has caused all the commotion and problems on that forum.

Ron

Last Edited By: Ron Steenwijk 07/03/09 10:48:02. Edited 2 times.

Peter

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(07/03/09 11:40:55)

Nice bait

Ron Steenwijk

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(07/03/09 14:28:59)

Peter,

this reply of yours (in that topic) was a big lie.

quote:

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Aloha Peter,
Bedankt voor je mail.
Er zijn 2 Cd's van mij verschenen die ik allebei kan leveren.

De op het Forum vermeldde "Souvenir from Hawaii" (Dedicated to Rudi Wairata), 12 ooit door Rudi gespeelde stukken in zijn stijl. Deze kost € 7,50 (± $ 10.=) en de pas in 2004 uitgebracht CD "How d'ya do?", 16 stukken in Wairata en Hoopii stijl. Deze kost € 12.= (± $ 17.=) Dit is zónder de verzendkosten. Als je geïnteresseerd bent laat het dan even weten dan kan ik uitrekenen hoe hoog de verzendkosten zijn. Je moet dan wél een paar weken wachten want ik ga morgen met vakantie.

Een geluidsvoorbeeld van "Souvenir from Hawaii" kun je vinden op http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/Souvenir%20from%20Hawaii/

In de bijlage vind je afbeeldingen van de Cd's
Hartelijke muzikale groeten van:
Henk Braaksma
(ik kwam jaarlijks in januari in Haarlem op het Hawaï-verjaardagsfeest van mijn goede vriend Gerard Dillen in de Paul Krugerstraat in Haarlem Noord. Nu helaas overleden)

ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

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Aloha Peter,
Thank you for your email.
Two of my CD's have been issued and I can deliver both.

"Souvenir from Hawaii" (Dedicated to Rudi Wairata), 12 track played in Rudi's style, has been mentioned on the forum. This one costs € 7,50 (± $ 10.=) and "How d'ya do?", 16 tracks in Wairata and Hoopii style, which was issued in 2004. That one costs € 12.= (± $ 17.=). This excludes shipping. If you are interested, let me know so that I can calculate the shipping costs.
You'l have to wait a couple of weeks, because I am going on leave (holiday) tomorrow.
You can find soundsamples of "Souvenir from Hawaii" at this link: http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/Souvenir%20from%20Hawaii/

I have attached the covers of the CD's.
Best Musical Regards
Henk Braaksma
(Every year I visited Haarlem in January to celebrate the Hawaii birthday of my good friend Gerard Dillen (now deceased) in Paul Kruger Street in Haarlem North)

You have been lying since day one.I hope that people around the world finally see what kind of man (??) you really are.
You have loured me into your trap ever since "That" day with all your aliases and lies.The bad part is that you became so good at it that people started to believe you.

Hopefully with this evidence I set the record straight.

I think that the only thing for me to do is..........sit back and wait for your aliases to pop up. Ian, Not Peter, Tito Jackson, Hark, etc etc.I can't even start to imagine how many you have .

Now a little word of advice Peter.......

Don't go any further OK? I have so much incriminating evidence on you that you will shit purple when you see it.

Ron

Last Edited By: Ron Steenwijk 07/03/09 14:34:28. Edited 1 times.

Peter

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(07/03/09 15:46:07)

Nice Bait

Ron Steenwijk

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(07/03/09 21:14:54)

CrowBear

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(07/03/09 23:30:00)

My advice to you is let it alone. The community can see who is making trouble,
and remembers that. No one remembers if you were right or wrong

Not Peter

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(07/04/09 09:47:26)

Who the hell is Tito Jackson and Hark? What does this prove? That Peter is Jerry?

Ron Steenwijk

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(07/04/09 13:33:56)

Nice try NumNutt.........

Arch97

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(07/04/09 14:37:58)

I'm Spartacus! I'm not, really. But, I am Tito Jackson on the BSS.

Not Peter

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(07/04/09 15:46:00)

Ron: Give some specific lies that caused you to be banned from the forum[s]? Why were you banned?

Peter

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(07/04/09 18:11:09)

Ron Steenwijk

My final say in all this

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(07/04/09 19:44:26)

First.........Arch...............I would've never thought you were the one.Shows me how well I know people huh?I don't like to be toyed with.........some people don't seem to care........they only want to hurt.Whether they know the whole story or not.

Second.....Peters reply on this topic shows me that he has Access to the Steel Guitar Forum.The picture he posted on this tread is under the "Forum Feedback" section..... http://bb.steelguitarforu...php?t=160114&start=0
Which I thought was only for "Forum Members"
Some forum huh...........double standards come to mind.

Jeff Newman was right when he said that all that the forum members do is fight.Let me be very clear about all of this.If this is what the the steel guitar forum is all about..............and if this is how we treat our fellow musicians.......then let me be very clear..............just bend over............and I will shove all this crap straight up your ass.
I do not want to be associated with this.....no more.

I have dealt with a lot of lowlifes over the years, but this beats everything.I hope that every single one of you will think about this post when you sit in Church on Sunday and ask for forgiveness for all the bad things you have done.
If the shoe fits...................think about this when you are there Sunday.
You all will meet your maker one day.....and when you do, you all will hear who was right.GOD never forgets.

I have a very sick wife but that does not seem to bother anyone.My wife did a lot for the steel guitar world...........more then you can imagine.She started the Steel Guitar Chat room with Larry Simpson.

No.................Ray Walker said he started it with Bo Miller.Ray was so pissed off (that he could not get in to Karen's pants) that he lied.Just keep kissing his furry ass boys.......just keep kissing it.
And now she is treated like this?
Karen helped out people on the forum when they needed a background song or vocals.............for free.Never did she ask anything from neither one of you.
Thank you guys..............................for treating her like this.

Now you all think that Karen and I are guilty...................thanks guys..............Thank you all so much.

Ron

Last Edited By: Ron Steenwijk 07/04/09 19:49:55. Edited 2 times.

Not Peter

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(07/04/09 21:27:59)

My ohh my Ron, No one said anything about your wife in this thread. If she is so sick, maybe you should have been tending to her instead of running internet scams (Is this how you treat fellow musicians?). Of course you tend to go on about your Peter obsession as well; and it seems you do have a serious Peter obsession. In fact it looks like you can't think or talk about anything but Peter. When ever anyone makes a post, all we see coming out of your mouth is Peter. You may need to see a professional about your Peter obsession and your mood swings. Just yesterday you were posting like you were on top of the world. Now in this morning you are down and dejected and wont even answer a simple question like "what lie caused you to be banned?". Of course many of us are convinced you are guilty. You have a history of being other than honest. If your wife was involved, then she is guilty too. If she is not guilty, then you are the one who tainted her name. Is this how you treat your wife? Regardless, playing the victim is distasteful. You have had ample time to tell your "story" in a clear, concise and verifiable manner right here and on your forum as well. Looks like you wasted it away talking about your favorite subject - Peter. ps. you're welcome

Arch97

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(07/05/09 02:34:50)

I didn't post anything hurtful on the BSS, I hope. I was just having fun.
Sorry, Ron.

Peter

Do Not Feed The Troll

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(07/05/09 03:55:33)

Ian

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(07/07/09 13:55:27)

This just in:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=162157

Herman junte.steelguitars

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(07/07/09 19:36:53)

Yeah......just seen it. Ain't that something?

Fun part is that no-one has the chance defend themselves on that forum.As soon as they do, they get booted off.Stephen Gambrell,Gary Steele and many others come to mind.Do a search and you'll see.
None of them stood a chance.
I see people on that forum that became a member a couple of weeks ago and they already judge.That's the reason why I never joined.

It looks like a war zone up there.Wannabee players that don't even know how to tune but still think they know everything.

This is why many builders don't want to be associated with this behavior.I can't blame them.

H

Not Peter

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(07/07/09 19:43:18)

Our zero - errr hero has joined this forum. http://steelguitar.ning.com/profiles/members/ I can't say much for the judgement of that forum for allowing him there and I wonder how long before he runs his next scam.

Not Peter

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(07/07/09 19:52:24)

Herman, Like I said above. He keeps crying that he can't defend himself but he has had time and space here and elsewhere to try to come up with some lie errr explanation for his actions. He has none and there is none. Anyone who wants to defend him can't answer either. Also, you dont need to know how to tune a steel guitar to identify a b/s scammer.

Last Edited By: Not Peter 07/07/09 20:18:56. Edited 1 times.

Not Peter

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(07/07/09 20:13:29)

btw Herman, most of the major builders are members of that forum. Carter, MSA, Mullen, Emmons, Fessenden, Franklin, Stage One, George Boards, Rains, etc. etc... Major shop owners too!! They might be glad that Scammy Scammington is not allowed around them anymore.

Peter

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(07/07/09 20:39:11)

Herman Junte is Ron Steenwijk.

Same message....

Same attitude....

Same grammer mistakes....

Herman's email address is diamondten@hotmail.com

Last Edited By: Peter 07/07/09 20:44:18. Edited 1 times.

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